This episode Colion sits down with Team Glock shooter Thy Ngo and her friend Jennifer Tanguyen, who is also a competitive shooter and talk about what it's like to be a competitive shooter and how they got there.
Welcome to another episode of the Colion Noir podcast and joining me is Sam.
It's T and Jen. Wrong. Yeah, that's what you get for trying to confuse me the first time. No, T and Jen. Yes. All right. How's it going guys? Good. Good. Good. Okay. So, you are a shooter for Glock. Mm hmm. And you are? I'm a free agent. You're a free agent. Okay. One wants to pick me up. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We'll have to, we'll have to get you picked up at some point.
Uh, figure that out. Competitive shooting is not exactly something that people just jump into initially. Or what was the kind of genesis for you all to get into competitive shooting? Was it you just woke up one day, it was like, I'm gonna just start shooting competitively. Or was there like a progressive gradual?
Well, for me, it was just Like I never heard of competition shooting before ever. Um, I Jen and I we both actually picked up our first ever Pistols in 2020 really and then we just eventually like went to the range every day So, you know certain people and then they introduced us to competition shooting What is this?
And so we just kind of went straight into that, um, within like three months of buying our first gun. So what, so what got you in the guns in the first place? Um, so mostly like it was during COVID. Um, she had. Purchased her first carry gun. So we both had our licenses for a while. Okay, but we never liked to purchase our own gun Okay, and then we took like a road trip in 2020 of February and she showed me her carry gun And so I was like, okay cool And so I was like, you know, I've had my license for a while and then that kind of got me to get my own gun So we started hitting the range together like three or four times a week and And then from there, we just like practiced on our own and then got into competition shooting.
That's pretty badass. That's pretty badass. I started going down that road a little bit, and I just realized I sucked. I saw a couple of your videos. Did you see the first ones? I don't know. There's a, there's some of them. It's, it's, Oh God, I'm going to embarrass myself again. All right, Peter, can you pull up the, my first IDPA competition?
Oh, it was IDPA. Yeah, see that tells you everything, right? It's like, okay, yeah, you know, watch. It's, it was pretty bad. It was pretty bad. I kind of did it as a way, uh, for people to kind of follow along with me and like my journey, um, so that they could see the progression if there was ever any progression, um, just type in Colonel Noir IDPA diaries.
Wait for the ad. But, um, Oh my gosh. Oh God. Yeah, look at this baby so embarrassing. Look at that young little whippersnapper. Aw, you look like a baby. So, how many years ago was this? This was when was this, Peter? This was, uh, 12 years ago. 12 years ago. Your skin's so smooth. I know. Oh, that was, see, y'all, y'all didn't know about, they already had the filters before filters became a thing.
So, I was taking advantage of the filters So yeah, so this is my first IDPA competition and it, yeah, as you can see, yeah, are you judging me right now? No. One handed. This is impressive. It's embarrassing. It's utterly embarrassing. And I think I was running, what was that? That was, I was running a Glock 19, uh, RTF 2 frame.
With the fish, with the fish gills and the moons and it like super, super aggressive grip on it. Um, I love that gun so much. Look at this one. Look at those cargo pants. Why am I dressed like this? Yeah. I hate myself. Is this guy coaching you right now? Yeah, he's kind of just giving me some advice on how to not embarrass myself.
Um, but yeah, so like that was, that was kind of like my foray into the competitive shootings. And I kind of stopped because the content production side of it kind of started taking over. And so that's, yeah. And then the political stuff started taking over and then before you know it, it was, yeah, it's like been a while since I was supposed to.
You should come to a match with us. Yeah. Have you done a USPSA match? Nope, I haven't. Um, I've only matched, only competitive shooting I've done, I did, I recently did a PRS match. A PRS match? Yeah. Okay. I did one of those, um, and I think, I actually, oof, I think that was about it, recently, yeah, as of recent, those are the competitions that I've done, um, and I didn't embarrass myself too bad in a PRS match, not too too bad, but it was definitely, I was definitely swimming in deep waters.
I heard those are fun. Yeah. They are fun, they are fun. Once you kind of get the hang of it, and the rhythm of things, and start to understand all, everything that goes into it, it definitely, it, It's, I enjoyed myself to say the least. That's like USPSA too. I feel like, you know, nerves, it's really nerve wracking your first match probably, but once you get used to all the rules and like what you're, what you need to do in a match and you know, proper procedures and things like that, like it's just fun.
It's so much fun. So for you, what is, so what is your favorite gun to run for your competition? What are you running for your competition? So right now I use a G47, um, it's basically a 17 length slide, 17 length frame, uh, with a 19 recoil system. Oh, okay. Alright, and then you? I'm running an Infinity 2011 right now.
Oh, big daddy. Yeah, so right now I'm having a lot of fun with that. How long did it take you to get that? Um, I shot like, I shot like production division, like kind of, well, no, no, I mean, how did you get the infinity? How long did it take you to get the infinity? Oh, how long? Um, I'm a little, I'm a, I'm a little jealous, that's all.
I kind of got talked into it, like I wasn't planning to go into open and then, um, I shot hers for the first time. I was like, Oh, this is really nice. And so I posted it and then this guy that was selling was like, I got a deal for you. Okay. All right. Fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. I was probably like a year and a half or two years, maybe almost two years.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I need it. I don't, I don't even know an infinity. I saw you shoot one. Yeah. That was a, that's a friend of mine's. So you could probably take it cause it's old. Like he has a really old one, but even still it's absolutely, you need to get, I do. The problem is, is I had this thing called instant gratification problems and I don't like waiting.
So this literally why I haven't been like, I think the waiting list is like, Like a year and a half to two years. Yes, I'm stupid. Um, and I, I found a couple that were second hand. Uh huh. And I almost bought it, almost, but I'm like, part of me is like, if I'm going to have one, I just want to be able to do it exactly.
Um, but then again, I'm pretty sure I'll come across one that I love and I'm like, alright, I'll just go ahead and love mine. Thinking about selling one. Oh, really now? Oh, it's really nice. Got a picture of it. Mm hmm. I do It's on my Instagram. Peter, if you want to pull that one up, it's like somewhere in the middle.
Let's see this infinity. Her name is Toasty. Toasty. I named her Toasty. Okay, so what's the name? That's her what? That's her serial number. Toasty. Oh, that's the actual, oh, cause yeah, you can customize, oh, okay, so what's the story behind Toasty? It's just, you know, you can, you can get Toasty splits on it, and, you know, it's badass.
Fair enough. Do you name your guns too? Mine's actually named two Mikes. I'm so lost. I didn't name it. I didn't name it though. So who named it? The previous owner since I bought it. Oh, so it had the name already. Yeah. But so you're not allowed to change the name? Well, the serial number is the actual serial number.
Yeah. That's the serial number. Did he tell you a story behind that? No, he didn't. Yeah, that's it. Oh, that's actually a very good looking one. Pretty. Is it greedy? I said pretty. Why do you want to sell it? I like my Glocks. There you go. Laughter So how was it shooting with Glock? Man, they treat me really well.
Um, get to travel pretty much all over across the nation with them. Um, I, you know, they, they support me and, you know, it's just been really awesome. Yeah. I don't think the higher ups and management over there like me pretty much. I don't think they like me very much. I don't have it. I don't have any confirmation of it.
It's just the way I do some of my videos. I kind of treat Glock like a, um, You know, like, do any of y'all have siblings? Yes. Yes. Are you nice to your siblings? Yeah. You are? Most of the time. So, I don't have any siblings. So, I have a very bastardized version of what that type of relationship would be like.
So, I kind of treat Glock like a sibling you don't like, but you love. Yeah. So, I've made a couple videos bemoaning certain things, and um, let's just say I'm pretty sure. I've I'm probably not, they don't have any posters of me at the facility at all. Um, but I, but I do, I do love their guns by and large. I just don't like the 17.
It's just, what do you not like about the 17? Um, it is nothing objective. It's all subjective. They're the way the gun fits in my hand. I, it just does not work for me. That's it. Because I absolutely love the 19 X. Yeah, absolutely. Um, 17 and the same thing with the 45. Because it's the same grip angle.
Everyone, everyone, when I do video, everyone in the comments, I know, I know, I know. I said it in a video. It doesn't make sense. But for whatever reason, I don't like it. I think also I'm not a fan of, uh, of longer slides on my guns. I tend to like them. So I kind of like longer grip, shorter slide length.
That's kind of my thing. So I think that adds to it as well. That makes me kind of like, Not to be expensive. Exactly. Yeah. Cause I like, I like my slices track really fast. And so, and then perceptively, if I can feel that motion coming back and forth, even though the runner at the same damn speed is tracking the same, just psychologically, it just makes me feel better.
Yeah. I feel the same way. Um, I like snappier slides or snappier, you know, as well. So like, that's why I choose the 47 versus the 34. And that's chambered in nine, nine, nine. Okay. Do you ever shoot any other calibers? No, just nine. Just nine. Yeah. No, I've shot like a 40 before, but that was just like at the range and there was a test demo gun there and I tried it.
Gotcha. I tried like 22, but that's it. But nine, nine, that's your thing is nine. You jam as well. Yeah. Well, yeah. Right now. Well the infinity is like 38 super comp. Oh really? So it's like a very powerful night. Yeah. Yeah. I'm familiar with that. So a lot of people don't realize that's, that's kind of how like the 2011 got started on like most of the people in the competition where we're shooting 2011 is that we're in 38 super.
Um, and people don't know that. It's kind of like, and I get it all the time. They're like, why don't they make any double stack 45s? I was like, you don't want,
there were a few, it didn't work. It didn't work too well. So, um, so from that perspective, I feel like. I'm a 2011 nut job, at this point. I'm obsessed with them. What's your favorite gun? Favorite gun of all time? Yes, of all time, if you had to choose one. Well, let's say pistol. Handgun, or are we talking like all platforms, or just kind of?
Let's do handgun. Barney, huh? It is, they're rummaging in my head right now. I have, this has nothing to do with practicality, has nothing to do with like, self defense, nothing, just purely like, I love this thing.
I, I absolutely love my Nighthawk 2011. Like, I, it is, it's, I have a weird attachment to it and, and it so happens to be one of the most expensive. No, I lied. I lied. I lied. I lied. I lied. I forgot about this one. I have the, I have the John Wick 3 box set. Um, those, even though I've only shot them once. But I'm going to have to say that and then with that Nighthawk being a close second.
Um, and With my staccato xe being a close third Yeah, that's mine. All 2011. Yeah, I would ask you but I already know what you're gonna say. So what is it? What would you what would your favorite hangout be? I'm probably gonna have to go with the Shadow 2, CZ Shadow 2. Really? Yeah I don't assume anybody watches my videos, but have you happened to see my video on that one?
I saw I think I watched that one in the Uh, the compact one as well. Okay, the compact one is the one I'm referring to. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, um, Alright. It doesn't feel the same. It's like a little bit snappier. It is. And I think from, and it's, again, it's, for me, it's subjective. I, I kept the way I would prep the trigger.
It never made me feel comfortable. I think I feel the same way about the compact too. Yeah. Or like the shadow to compact. It's, it's an excellent trigger from the standpoint that it's incredibly clean. It's very precise, almost too precise. And I'm, I'm kind of like, I have these like small Hobbit gorilla hands.
And so I, My ability to kind of hit that wall exactly where I need to, without, I'm trying to avoid saying N. D. But Is it just like finding the wall on that one? It's just a lot, it's hard for me. And I don't know if it's because I'm so used to running A. R. triggers. Um, but I struggle with finding that wall, slacking out, and um, without sending around prematurely.
Um Other than that, I think the gun is gorgeous. I think it feels great in hand. I think the trigger in and of itself objectively is, is amazing. But for me, and that's why I titled the video way I did, I was like, it just frustrates me because I can't get comfortable with the gun. Yeah. Um, yeah. Everybody says that you do, but just intuitively it just, it didn't happen.
Yeah. And so now I still have it, so I didn't get rid of it. So clearly there's something that I still like about it a lot. Um, and largely I think it's just a beautiful gun, but. It is, I can see why that, that would be your favorite. So I'm just going to do myself a disservice anyway and ask her anyway what her favorite handgun is.
My favorite handgun is a 43 X. It's my first gun that I bought. Yes, it's a Glock, but it is also my very, very first pistol that I bought. I carry it every day. I carry it every day. It goes everywhere with me. It's my favorite. You know what? I actually believe you. Yeah. If you had said any other Glock, I'd have been like bullshit.
Yeah. Now I did do a video and it's probably one of the videos is the reason why I don't have a poster hanging up in the Glock facilities. I did. I got the video saying the 43 X was trash. Um, it was kind of click baity. Um, what it was for me was I loved the 43 X. I watched that video actually. Yeah. Like very, very early on.
Oh really? Yes. Yeah. So you know. Yeah. Yeah. It was clickbaity. Yeah. Very clickbaity. I it not a good gun? But no. Yeah. You actually, you're like, oh wow, 10 rounds, you can fit on here. That's literally, that's my biggest, everything else about it was dead on. I think I remember watching that one as well. Yeah.
It's, it's a, it, it, I loved it because it was basically, I was like, thank you. You gave me a 19 X carry gun. Essentially, right? And that within that micro compact space of firearms. And so for me, it was like, yeah, this is, this is, yeah, I don't carry it as much now. Um, oddly enough, I've started carrying bigger guns.
Which is kind of weird 'cause I was the always the biggest proponent of like, I want the smallest gun possible with the most rounds possible. Um, I don't know what has happened. I don't know. I'm getting old or something and I'm able to carry bigger guns. I don't know. What are you carrying currently? Um, right now I'm going back and forth between the, um, I have a six hour, um, x macro macro X macro, but it's on a mischief, uh, alloy frame.
And then, uh, the Springfield Hellcat Pro and, uh, the staccato CS. And if I really, really, really, really want to go small, like the smallest I really go is about 6L P365. And then sometimes I'll do the, um, The FN Reflex. I'm kind of curious, like, whenever you're, you have like all these different makes and models of guns and you use it for carry, like, how do people, like, I never understood and, um, like why or how people are able to do that.
Like for me, if I'm going to carry a Glock, then I'm going to carry the same, the same Glock, or at least the same platform, the same. So. I always tell people when people ask me, I, I do believe that I'm a believer in a rotation system. Um, and that's largely because I find myself in various situations where I'm not always, I'm always trying to maximize how much can I have.
So for me, if I can put it, if I can, like if I'm going to the gym, when I go to the gym, I don't carry on body. Um, so I can carry it in a bag. So if I'm carrying it in a bag, I'm gonna carry a bigger gun as I possibly can. Yeah. So that'd be like, so this is the gym gun, right? And then, um, or if I'm, like my t shirt, this is about to sound really gay.
Um, Like, depending on how I'm wearing my t shirt. Am I wearing it more fitted that day? Then, okay, cool. I'll probably wear something smaller like my, um, like those X Macro. But if I'm wearing something that has a bit of a more baggier cut, then I can get away with running a CS, staccato, and you're, you make a great point because I tell people all the time I I am a proponent of having a rotation.
I just understand the limitations that come with it because you do have to know those guns intimately. And I've shot those guns a lot, especially considering I'm going, like one of the guns has a prime amount of safety on it. Right. Um, and so the interesting thing is sometimes when I'm running drills with the guns that don't have safeties, I still sweep off for the safety.
Because I've run drills with that staccato so much. And so, it's not the most, it's not the most advisable thing to do. Um, I do do it, but a lot of it too still comes down with me having to, So I'm constantly reviewing different guns, so it's hard, so I kind of have to, I'm always rotating anyway, so I'm like, I want to know how this is going to carry and things like that.
That makes sense. Yeah. So I'm kind of forced to in a way. Yeah. You're still like training and everything. Exactly. Yeah. So like, we'll go out to the range sometimes and then after we're done filming, if I'm not dead beat tired, then I'll go out and run some drills real quick, get some reps in. Especially if like, or right before I go out, I'll put it on.
I'll get a couple of draws in to make sure that it pulls from, you know, does what it needs to do. Or I remember, okay, I need to drop to safety on this one, so forth and so on. Um, but most people are not getting that level of shooting time or training. So, I, that's why I wouldn't necessarily advise it unless you can actually train with all the guns that you have and then understand and going back and forth.
Um, but I do agree with you. I think in an ideal world, So, you find the smallest gun that you can carry all the time, that gives you enough confidence to feel like you can deal with something. But I'm a capacity whore. So, I want, I want all the bullets in the world. I agree with you. Like, on certain days, like, if I have a gym bag, too, or if I'm carrying, like, if I'm wearing something baggy, then I'll be fine.
So, from a female standpoint, um, I recently did a video about girls carrying guns in their purse. Um, how do you, how do you guys handle carrying? Because I've, I've, I've learned the hard way that carrying a gun for a woman is not exactly the easiest thing in the world, especially on body. So how do you go, how do you guys go about doing that?
Um, I mean, lately I've been going for the fanny pack, so I've been using the Lina Michalik Vertex, um, fanny pack. Um, I mean, I feel like as long as you're practicing your draws and, you know, like, you're comfortable with it, I think that's okay. And then the thing with that is, like, you can't set it down, really.
You have to have it on you at all times. Um, it is kind of harder for a female to carry like on body all the time just because yeah, unless you're just super casual that day. Yeah. Yeah. And you same way? Yeah. I've been using the fanny pack pretty often too, but I, yeah, I prefer on body, um, appendix carry and I'm like casual.
This is me. Okay. Gotcha. So it's like, it's easier for you. I work from home and so it's, yeah, it's easy. Gotcha. Yeah. That's interesting. So you appendix carry. Did you always appendix carry? Does that how you started out? That's how I started out. Really? Yeah. Cause most people are terrified. I did like, for me, it took me a while.
I started carrying at three o'clock and then over time I got to appendix. And then now I'm like all appendix in. Like I won't carry it. I hate carrying a three o'clock now. Like I'm like, how, how did I ever do this? Um, but yeah, but. Everybody else that I know, they're not carrying appendix. Peter, do you carry appendix?
Yep. Oh, never mind. Peter carries appendix. Yeah, I found like, I haven't really explored too much with other positions. Um, appendix, I've been able to conceal the best. Okay. Um, we have like, Women have like this fat pad. Um, you know, so it's like it's it's just easier to conceal. Um, gotcha I want to say I have like six different like different tools to help me carry So really like like the hunter Constantine belt and then I have like the comfort concealment Flashbang holsters, so there's like different Holsters for all the belts that I use with different outfit, which makes sense.
I mean, just even you guys as clothes options except for you, because you always stay casual. But you know, if you look at a girl's closet, there's all like these little pieces of fabric. I'm like, what the fuck? Oh, that's, that's a shirt. Oh yeah. Whereas guys's t-shirt, pants and shoes, that's it. Um, but I do carry off body too quite a bit.
Um, I'll, I'll kind of have a sling or something like that, that, um, I'll kind of carry. They're not really designed for it. Mm-Hmm. . Um, but. I kind of do it understanding the limitations that come with it. You know, and I think that's one of the big things that people, like, how they decide to carry is understanding the limitations that come with it.
That's the way that they carry. Because I think people are kind of delusional sometimes. It's like, yeah, I can get to my bag fast enough. Eh, maybe. But not always. Um, but I will say we kind of do live in a golden age of concealed carry bags now. Because before when I got into the space, There was nothing. I mean, there were some things, but they were all, like, bags.
But, like, the kind of little carry pouches and things like that. And I'm not quite there yet to wear a fanny pack. I feel like, um, that's kind of more, like, within the past, like, only the last year. Yeah, very much so. Where, like, all these bags started coming out. And I think a lot of it was, like, It's done by way of so many people getting into the, getting into firearm space now.
So like now you had more, cause before the firearm space was a little bit more, I don't want to say clicky, but it was definitely in its own little world. Um, and it's become a little bit more commercialized now, um, and more mainstream more or less. Um, and so you have all these people like coming up with ideas, all right, well, how do people carry on a day to day basis?
I live in a city. So I, Life is very dynamic. It'd be different if I lived in the middle of nowhere and it's like, yeah, I can keep a rifle in my truck and you know, carry it, open carry, do whatever. And you can open carry here, but I'm just not, I'm not an open carry person. Yeah, so I'm gonna take it none of you guys would ever open carry.
No. Why not? What's wrong with open carry? But, so, what competitions do you have coming up, like, any time soon, or is it? Like, what is that like, what is the schedule like, for like a competitive shooter, like, between each competition? Um, so I have Cary Optics Nationals coming up in two weeks, that's gonna be in Ohio.
So, everyone's gonna come all over the nation, we're gonna shoot the Nationals match. And this is actually the last qualifier, so there's um, There's four qualifiers total. You just need three to be able to make it to the world shoot. The world shoot is like our, um, Olympics. It happens every three years. Um, and the best of the best get to make it to Team USA.
So, and represent Team USA. So this is the last qualifier, um, for, to make it to the, uh, to the world shoot. And so, um, it's going to be a really important one. I always get this wrong. It's USPSA? Yeah. USPSA. United States. Pistol. Practical. Practical. Shooting Association. Shooting Association. Okay, I'm going to butcher that again, I promise you.
And then there's So there's USPSA. And then what's the other ones? Then there's IPSC, which is the, um, I guess it's the parent association of USPSA. It's the international one. I don't know what it stands for. International Shooting Pistol. International practical shooting. I have no idea. How about international pistol competition?
I don't know, something like that. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. IPSC. I've only had the experience. I got my belt so far, um, for IPSC. Um, main differences are rules. So, like, how you can set up your belt rig, your gun, um, Most of most parts of the gun has to be pretty much, um, OEM.
So you can't have, like, an aftermarket, um, mag release, for example, in, uh, uh, IPSC. And then shooting style wise, like, it's Um, I would say, like, for USPSA, it's a lot more, like, faster shooting and, like, a lot of blending positions and things like that. Gotcha. Whereas IPSC, it's, it, to me, what it seems like, it's a little bit more, um, at least overseas, um, it seems to be more, like, positional and then get really accurate hits.
Gotcha. Okay. So, basically, it's, like, kind of running and gunning versus, I don't know. Very accuracy based. It's kind of, like, okay. That makes sense. I mean, everyone, it's, it's all, it's also. Time based too, but, um, it seems to be more positional is what I, from my experience. Some of the rules are like, with IPSEC, you only have four minutes to walk, like, um, before your stage.
You can't pre walk it. So with USPSA, you can pre walk it. You can come, like, the day ahead of time and, you know, pre plan your stages and stuff like that. Oh, now, that's USPSA? That's, uh, USPSA, you can come ahead of time. You can come ahead of time. And walk your you can't with IPSEC. Yeah, IPSEC, you only get the four minutes while you're, like, That's a big, that's a big, I was going to get in that because I didn't realize it wasn't until I thought about shooting competition when I realized how much goes in, like the very finite aspects, like down to how you step, how you walk, how you like everything.
And I'm like, holy, this is, this is like, and so is that, is that something you're practicing it to the point where it just becomes muscle memory or are you actually thinking about these things as you're shooting as well? So they call it like the subconscious versus, versus the conscious. Um, whenever you're shooting a stage, you kind of want everything to be a subconscious type of thinking where everything is just, you know, memorized, choreographed.
Um, and you just kind of flow through the whole stage. And that's, you know, that's, I don't know. I don't. Yeah, so pretty much it's like you want to know your plan, your stage plans consciously. Um, and then the only thing you want to be thinking about is like, maybe that one thing you need to focus on, like whether it's like your grip or whether it's like seeing your dot in the middle of the target, but it should just be like one thing that you're thinking about.
Sorry, are you guys at a point where the moment you break the shot, you know whether or not you broke a clean or not? Is that Is that registering or is it kind of like you, you're talking about like shot calling more or less? Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Um, I'm still, that's something I'm still working on. Um, shot calling is just being able to like, so if you're having two shots on paper, for example, if I knew I missed when your next shot should pretty much be immediate and you don't have to think about it.
Yeah. Okay, yeah, I'm definitely not anywhere close to that. Yeah, I just I do a lot of instinctive shooting so how much of that how much of that actually plays into because I'm I don't know the exact distance is more or less but At any point is are you instinctive shooting or is it everything you're watching your dot every single time I think there's like, depends on the target, like you're, you know, the, the stage and the targets.
Gotcha. Cause I know what, for me, anything five to seven yards, I'm, I'm, I'm not really using, I'm not using. So you're talking about like, um, reactive shooting kind of more or less versus, yeah. Predictive shooting. So like predictive, you're, you know what your shots and where your shot placements will go at five yards.
If you're just doing a quick 15 second split or something like that, you know, it's going to be like, your grouping is going to be this size. So that's, that would be called, um, predictive shooting, reactive shooting. It's like, I'm going to see where my dot comes back. And then my next shot's going to come back whenever my doc comes back as well.
Gotcha. I think, so I'm going to explain to how it happens in my brain and you can tell me where it fits in. So at those distances, Distances for me. I'm watching the reaction on a target and then within that microsecond, I'm, I'm making adjustments to tighten the group up as much as I can, but I'm not utilizing any optics.
I'm literally just watching the target. And then my body mechanic is just doing whatever any corrections it needs to make, whether it's be my handstand, whatever, within that time period to get back on target. So was that predictive or reactive? I don't know. Um, yeah, I mean, I guess that's a mix. Yeah, it's just, I don't know.
That's, I think that's a little bit different from what I was talking about. I think for what you were referring to is just, just being able to make those like quick adjustments and corrections as you're shooting. Gotcha. Gotcha. Just by feel. So, yeah. And I think, I think the reason why that works for me is because I tend to overshoot, I tend to overthink and that, and I don't shoot well when I do that.
Yeah. And so when I kind of just let my body do what it does, um, I tend to shoot better. The problem is, is you can't consciously try to let your body do what it does because then you're overthinking. Yeah. So it's like that weird kind of inability to find a flow state. You got to, it's there, but. You know life and I think I dealt one of my biggest issues was shooting steel Initially now, I love it.
But before I could not shoot steel. I would miss the entire target no matter how close I was Do you know why you missed? I think I was waiting for the response instead of shoot instead of following through and engaging in my What's the word I'm looking for? Uh, fundamentals. Yeah. And so I'm like, I want to hear it.
You know what I mean? So it's probably slapping the trigger coming off the target, doing all those things and then not, um, actually doing what I need to do to hit the steel in anticipation of hitting the steel. And, um, I think over time, and then it would cause a kind of a cascading effect where when I wouldn't hear the hit, It would, it would just like another punch cut and like, Oh, I didn't hear, I didn't hear.
And then it just kind of builds on itself and then just, it just turned into a shit show. But now I love still, but she was still all the time now. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I, um. Um, personally, if I had to, I would only shoot steel, but I also know that they're it's incredibly important. It's like instant gratification.
Exactly. Remember? I told you, I have instant gratification. So, but no, um, I really appreciate it. You guys. Um, I wish you guys the best of luck, um, whenever your next competition is, cause you never told me. Oh, no, you did tell me. You did tell me. Yes, I did. Yes, you did. Yeah. Yeah. Two weeks from now. Um, I'll let you know about that, uh, that infinity.
I'll let you know. It was a good looking gun. Um, But no, but I definitely thank you guys for coming out. Thank you. Absolutely.